AMANDA: Our Foreign Minister Julie Bishop joins us now to explain the history of the universe for us all. Good morning Julie.

JULIE BISHOP: Good morning, great to be with you both.

JONESY: Great to have you, touring the facilities, picking up slack.

JULIE BISHOP: All of that.

AMANDA: So, what does it mean? When they say it is solving a very big and dangerous problem, I know that Kim Jong-un has before made these claims and backed out of them, is this the great news we want it to be?

JULIE BISHOP: It is most certainly an historic event not only because it is the first time a sitting US President has met with a North Korean Leader, but it is also the first positive development involving North Korea in over a decade, building on that earlier meeting between the South Korean President and Kim Jong-un. North Korea has committed to complete denuclearisation and a lasting and stable peace on the Korean Peninsula. I am cautiously optimistic that the goals can be achieved but we now have to see North Korea actually take genuine concrete steps to dismantle its illegal ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs. We have got to remember that North Korea is in defiance of numerous UN Security Council resolutions that ban it from carrying out ballistic missile tests or developing a nuclear weapons program and it has done both over recent years.

JONESY: When was the last time Kim Jong-un was out of the country? I know he went to school in Switzerland or something when he was young, but when was the last time he was out of the country?

JULIE BISHOP: Overseas sightings are very rare. He has travelled to China, you’ll recall he travelled on a train to China, and then he met with President Moon at the Demilitarised Zone between North and South Korea. But this would be one of the rare outings and that is what made it such a spectacle, to see President Trump meet with Kim Jong-un in Singapore. The sightseeing the evening before was truly remarkable. The serious aspect of this is North Korea has posed a threat, not only to our region, but globally. The instability it causes by having a nuclear weapon program, the ballistic missile testing over the Sea of Japan - these pose real threats. Now President Trump has brought him to the negotiating table and that in major part was as a result of the sanctions that were imposed on North Korea. These economy-wide sanctions over the last nine months have really started to bite, probably the North Korean elites in particular, and that is why Kim Jong-un has come to the negotiating table, but there is a very long way to go. One summit meeting was never going to achieve everything and there are many other issues that need to be discussed over coming months, possibly years.

AMANADA: President Trump has said that he and Kim Jong-un have developed a very special bond and that he wants to invite Kim to the White House. This is in the same week that one of the President Trump’s aids has said that Justin Trudeau earns a special place in hell. So he’s courting North Korea and yet he is having trouble with his allies?

JULIE BISHOP: There is a lot of hyperbole around at present. The US and Canada are debating trade issues and I hope they resolve them as soon as possible. They are the closest and dearest allies, and neighbours, as well and I am sure that they will resolve those trade tensions. But what we are dealing with in the case of North Korea is a regime that has posed a risk to the world and President Trump has at least got Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table. We now want to see the concrete, genuine steps that North Korea will take to complete a denuclearisation and that can then hopefully lead to a lasting peace on the Korean Peninsula. But I emphasise we would want to see North Korea to make a commitment to do this and then do it. They have been down this path before. They have made agreements. They have even had independent inspectors into North Korea and then they have kicked them out. This is the opportunity for North Korea to change its ways.  

JONESY: Foreign Minister, can you do a favour for me, if you don’t mind? Last night on A Current Affair, they had a Kim Jong-un impersonator –

AMANDA: I am sure it was the real thing.

JONESY: No, it wasn’t, it was a guy that looked like Kim Jong-un-

AMANADA: It looked very much like him.

JONESY: Endorsing Tracey Grimshaw to win a Gold Logie.  Have a listen.

AMANDA: Kim Jong-un endorsed Tracey!

JONSEY: Amanda has gone mental on this. Because she is…

JULIE BISHOP: Amanda wants President Trump?

JONESY: She has been nominated for a Gold Logie. All morning she’s had her head in her hand saying it’s all over. 

AMANDA: It’s all over, Kim Jong-un’s done it.

JONESY: No, but I’m just saying, if the Foreign Minister Julie Bishop endorsed you-

AMANDA: I would relax entirely.

JONESY: That would be better than a Kim Jong-un impersonator.

AMANDA: Very much so.

JULIE BISHOP: But you don’t want a Julie Bishop impersonator, you actually want me to do it.

JONESEY: We want the real deal.

AMANDA: The real thing.

JONESEY: I want the whole thing.

AMANDA: It would mean a lot to me, just to say, ‘Amanda for gold’.

JULIE BISHOP: Amanda for gold.

JONESY: So, there you go. See?

AMANDA: Foreign Minister, you’ve made my day.

JONESY: Now, will you shut up about it?

AMANDA: I think he was talking to me then, not you.

JULIE BISHOP: I hope so. I took it as directed to you, but hey, you never know.

JONESY: Foreign Minister, Julie Bishop. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re welcome back any time. 

JULIE BISHOP: That’s wonderful and I am looking forward to seeing you up there on the stage getting that Logie.   

AMANDA: How great are you. Thank you so much.

JONESY: It’s a lot. It’s happening.


AMANDA: Thank you.

JONESY: Thanks Julie. Julie Bishop there.

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